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Vacation project-product list help...
Here's what I've been using, (go ahead, hate on me, I'm here to learn!) Bleche-Wite on wheels and tires (harsh chems, terrible, I know) MEGUIARS Gold Class- car shampo clay bar wax foam applicator Micro-fiber towels Black Magic Gel Tire Shine apply-let set-wipe down I'd like to support DD as much as possible with my future car care products. This is what I came up with so far- not in this order, this is just a product list- 1st time only-wash with dish soap to strip all previous waxes, and then never again. Adam's Car Shampoo w/ Uber wool mit Autoglym Intense Tar Remover Nanoskin Auto Scrub for decon Tarminator for wheels and tires Adam's Super VRT dressing Sonax PNS to seal wheels SF4500 for interior 3-M cutting and polishing for paint correction Opti-Coat to seal- literally don't have time to wax every couple months, this seems like a good alternative... Adams Americana on top I need a deep-cleaner for the Shadow-line trim, more than just a polish. What do you reccomend? When I got my roof resprayed, looks like someone let a sander slide all the way down the windshield, right in front of the driver's seat. Can't see it unless the sun hits just right, but it looks terrible when it does. Overlapping half-circles, all the way down. Can I polish this out? With what? Ready, GO! Let the ridiculing/suggestions fly...
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When your cutting run your buffer at low speeds the lower the speed the less swirls you will get, you see people running buffers at high speed and that's just the worst
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Started me out VERY nicely, J, I was hoping you would help me out! You seem to take care of your X, and know what your doing.
I'm hoping to start on my brother's Esky first, before mine. His paint literally looks like it was never cleaned or waxed. Contamination and serious swirls. Hoping to decon it and then hit it with the FG400. Looks like Phil gets some pretty amazing results with it. What pad would you reccomend using? Also need to get rid of a couple fine (but visible) scratches in my paint. Reccomendations on pad/polish for that? I might end up finishing up with PNS if I can get 6 months out of it. Probably would be easier and quicker than trying to get it perfect with Opti-Coat. I'll probably only use Adam's dressing on tires. I use an applicator to dress my tires, let it penetrate a couple hours, then wipe down. I just wanted them nice and black. I'll give the Menzerna a go on my trim. I had had it looking good soon after I got it. When it went to the mechanic for awhile I'm guessing he left it outside for some time in the rain, looked terrible when I got it back. I'll check exactly what wax I'm using when I get home from work. Disregard the interior cleaner, had something else in mind. Thanks again!
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Any suggestions on running buffer left/right, up/down, or in circles?
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If you're a beginner I wouldn't recommend a buffer (rotary).
I would recommend getting the Griots 6" DA from Phil, with the Uber Foam pads. FG400 is a great compound but if the Escalade is a hammered black it will take multiple passes with MF cutting pads to get it looking decent again. For fine but visible scratches in your paint, again I'd start with least aggressive method first. For me and my shelf, that is the SF4000 or Sonax Perfect Finish with the Uber Green Foam pad. If I want more power, I step up to the Uber Orange pad with same products. If I'm compounding I can use the FG400 with the Orange pad, but I mostly use the MF cutting pads because its quicker and finishes nicely. Always start with least aggressive pad/polish combo and work your way down. I would watch Garry Dean, Larry Kosilla (AMMO NYC) and Mike Phillips videos on how to use a DA machine properly, even though it is a basic tool to use and you won't burn your paint, you need to use it properly to be proficient in orbital polishing. For the shadowline trim, the reason it came back looking like crap is whatever fillers in the products you were using wore off and thats why when you got it back the trim showed what it "truly" looks like. Once you machine polish it (and the products I mentioned have no fillers) it will be permanently looking better. Good luck man hit me up if you need anything, proper detailing is a true regimen and once you're "caught up" maintaining it is easy, but to be honest the most marring of the paint comes from improper washing/drying techniques in my experience.
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Foam pads all day ^ good advise. I have a Milwaukee nice variable speed. Doesn't matter what way you cut I put a very slight angle left or right what ever is comfortable when doing a hard cut, I lay the pad flat when removing say like in the glazing process. Another piece of advice is make sure you have the right pads you can't just go from a compound to fine polish as it will not take away the abrasion from the compound pad when doing black or dark colors I go from compound "depending on paint condition" to med, light, Polish in that order
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^ This is good advice when using a rotary.
Question is Matt will you be going Rotary or with a DA style machine on your work?
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Great advice as always, from everyone!
J, my brother has a DA Porter and Cable, I've played around quite a bit with it, but never knew enough/never invested in the right pads/polishes to get good results. I'll be investing in a rotary just so I have the option, and so that we can work simultanously. Any info on handling the 2 different buffers? So if I understand correctly, you suggest using microfiber cutting pads with FG400, as they cut quicker? I shouldn't need a more aggressive compound on heavily damaged black? Concerning cleanup, how do I take care of foam and MF pads after using them? Anything special? I've always enjoyed cleaning cars, really looking forward to being ''schooled'' and being able to make my X keep the shine longer. I'll definitely check out the vids you mentioned, J, thanks for the reference. Thanks for clarifying pad usage, E38, can't wait to order some Uber foam pads and give em a try...
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Personally I have no experience detailing with a rotary, so I couldn't recommend it for a beginner as well.
Check which Porter Cable your brother has, if it's not the XP model you are gonna need a machine with more grunt. Instead of buying a rotary buy the GG6 kit from Phil which comes with 5.5" pads. If you use anything over 5.5" pads on a Porter Cable it will take you forever to get work done, the machine just doesn't have much power. As I mentioned above I'd recommend getting 4" pads for the Porter Cable (and a backing plate) and using that for curves and tight areas like bumpers and headlights, etc and use the GG6 with 5.5" pads for the larger sections of car. This is what I do. MF cutting pads will cut more than Orange foam but they are very friendly and will finish really nice. Please watch videos on using them and you'll need to fluff the fibers up with a brush after each section pass. If the fibers flatten down they won't be correcting. Don't use MF cutting pads on a rotary although that should be self explanatory. If you need more aggressive than Meg's MF cutting pads and FG400 on black, you might as well be wet sanding. FG400 is rated to remove 1200 grit scratches. As far as clean up, just soak the hell out of the spent pads with APC, massage into the pads, and rinse them out well with HOT water until there is nothing coming out anymore, then wring them out and air dry. Again your choice on rotary vs DA but you don't run risk of burning paint with rotary and you won't be chasing buffer trails, holograms, etc and won't need 3 different polishes to get LSP ready.
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