Rough Idle On Cold Days? - Page 2

X5 Meister · #11 03-02-2009, 02:46 AM

Here you go SIB 110205.
Also read this thread: Bought a BUM X5...WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

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JT///MC · #12 03-22-2009, 01:48 AM

well, this explains the slight rough idle I have on startup...great.

Will BMW NA do this repair after warranty is up? Seems like a manufacturing defect. They are admitting to it. They should honor in the same way they extended the 6yr/100k warranties for the S54 engines.

What do you think Killcrap?

X5 Meister · #13 03-22-2009, 04:13 AM

Hey JT, does your production date fall in that range?

What are your referring to with S54 engines btw?

JT///MC · #14 03-22-2009, 04:23 AM

8/04 build so yeah, its in that range.

BMW shamefully tried to deny early E46 M3 owners any warranty repairs for their blown S54 motors due to failed bearings. So nice of them to blame owners for "over revving" their motors even though all the blown motors did not register any overrev codes. They didn't believe any of the owners until the SMG M3s started to blow their motors too. Thats when they discovered they had a bad batch of bearings. So to continue to sell M3s and not have the enthusiast crowd bail out on BMW, they extended the engine's warranty on all early model S54s to 6yrs/100k.

This is very typical BMW NA BS. They know they have a defect and they pretty much keep it on the hush hush as to no affect their image and hurt their name brand, and thus sales. Rather than own up to their mistakes and fix the issue for owners. I don't think BMW NA will do anything for out of warranty owners even though its CLEARLY a manufacturing DEFECT.

X5 Meister · #15 03-22-2009, 05:11 AM

Interesting info.

Given that your car falls in that range, the job might have already been done. Do you have all the maintenance records printed from a dealer? As far as being covered under extended CPO warranty, I don't know. Maybe they will. The SIB doesn't specifically say that they will, but then again it hasn't been updated since Jan 2006. The SIB's for the CCV issues on the M54 and N62 engines have recently been updated to specifically include CPO coverage, but then again those are more prevalent issues. If your DME has stored the above fault codes then I think you might be able to make a good case, if it hasn't then it might be hard to prove it without stripping the engine yourself and looking at the date codes on the levers themselves. Keep one thing in mind though, this is a HUGE job and one you sure as hell don't want to pay out of pocket for.

killcrap · #16 03-22-2009, 10:29 AM

if you have cpo warranty it covers it, if your cpo coverage is over, bend over. $3500. if you have factory warranty its covered, if your over factory warranty but depending on milage and time, they will good will it, if they fail at 60K and your still within the 4 years, they will good will it, if it fails at 40K and its been less than 1 year after your warranty expired they will cover it.

JT///MC · #17 03-22-2009, 01:34 PM

68k miles now, car originally purchased 2/05. What do you think? seems like I'm out of the range, but really close. If I take it down to complain about the issue, how much are they gonna charge me to run that test?

chilliwilli · #18 03-22-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JT///MC

68k miles now, car originally purchased 2/05. What do you think? seems like I'm out of the range, but really close. If I take it down to complain about the issue, how much are they gonna charge me to run that test?

Diagnostic fee runs roughly $130+ tax...

killcrap · #19 03-22-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JT///MC

68k miles now, car originally purchased 2/05. What do you think? seems like I'm out of the range, but really close. If I take it down to complain about the issue, how much are they gonna charge me to run that test?

very rare for your car to have this symptom, especially when it doesnt reach less than 20 degrees ambient temperature. unless your car is stalling on cold starts, and the check engine lamp is on, i wouldnt worry about it.

JT///MC · #20 03-22-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by killcrap

very rare for your car to have this symptom, especially when it doesnt reach less than 20 degrees ambient temperature. unless your car is stalling on cold starts, and the check engine lamp is on, i wouldnt worry about it.

Thanks kinda funny. After reading some of your posts, it was what made me worry about it...

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