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Old 03-11-2009, 08:13 AM
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Please advise what can I use instead of Texaco ETL 8072B

Dear all,

Please help I'm tired to look for any info about oil to my GM transmission on x5 2003.
I know that there is Texaco ETL 8072B but it's difficult to find such type of oil in my country.

Please advise is there any replacement oil instead of Texaco ETL 8072B?

I heard about Dextron IV and Dextron VI and I’m really confused now what can I use to change oil in transmission.

Thank you in advance.

PS: Sorry for my eng.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:58 AM
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i believe its not recommended to change the tranny fluid..but do a quick search in the forum and you'll get more answers than what i have to offer. good luck..
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I know that its not recommended but I also do not believe in eternal fluid...
I used "search" button already but as I said I'm finally confused what I should use.
Please send some links.

thanks in advance.
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i believe its not recommended to change the tranny fluid..but do a quick search in the forum and you'll get more answers than what i have to offer. good luck..
You're naive if you believe BMW's lifetime fluid marketing. Read this thread => http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...ed-bmw-gm.html
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Hey Albert. Why not just call up your local dealer to ask what they use.
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Our dealer does not changes fluid in american X5 as they think as NJ04e53 and do not recommend to change tranny fluid.
And I have another thoughts.
In the link above author used D4ATF my eng. not so perfect and I didn't understand this D67388.pdf - Windows Live

That's why I asked you to advise what should I use DextronIV or DextronVI.
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They use ESSO LT 71141 as it satisfies ZF transmission.

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Yeah, somewhere.
Make sure to look at the sticker on your transmission and triple check it's the proper fluid.
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Yeah, somewhere.
Make sure to look at the sticker on your transmission and triple check it's the proper fluid.
Please send if it's possible [email protected]

I did it already several months ago, I have GM transmission VIN LV84826
and I'm sure that required ETL 8072B but I want to know can I use alternative fluid like DextronVI or Dextron IV
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:03 AM
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Hi everyone -

I just went through this with the authorized dealer. Part number for ETL 8072B was superseded in BMW part system and guess what, it is now Dexron VI. I originally ordered ETL 8072B but it never came in. So, my trusty part guy at the dealer checked part number again to find this.

This makes good sense as it is a GM transmission after all and I suspect ETL 8072B was nothing more than Dexron III variety, not even synthetic kind.

Now, when I replaced fluid at 67,000 miles, frankly fluid was in such a bad shape and now I understand why so many BMW auto box fails. Fluid was black (lost red coloration all together) and well past useful life. It was fortunate that I did not find any metal shavings, etc. I have absolutely no idea why BMW does not recommend a regular replacement - box manufacturer, GM, does.

I chose Valvoline Dexron VI as it is full synthetic and cheaper than Castrol (I use Mobil 1 wherever, whenever I can but Mobil's Dexron VI is a synthetic blend and Mobil 1 full synthetic ATF really should not be used for this box).

Difference it made was nothing short of stunning. Now box is ultra smooth and shift is super silky.

I did remove the pan but did not replace a filter - I ordered aftermarket filter to one of those BMW specialists. Compared to the OEM part, this replacement (German name, made domestically) was obviously sub-standard and even missing an extension to reach to the bottom of the pan as well as a support against the pan to hold it in place. I will order OEM filter to the dealer and redo this. When you drop a pan and refill, do a refill one extra time after engaging gear - this will allow more of oil trapped in torque converter to be replaced. First fill (after engaging gears) showed darkened fluid. Second fill gave much lighter (red) coloration.

Box holds 9 liters and first fill (pan drop) will initially allow only 4 liters of new fluid. Engage gears and top-off - this will introduce another 2 liters. Then drain and refill - 2.5 liters. So all together you will need 8.5 liters.

All I can say is that the difference is nothing short of amazing. If I knew, I would have done this every 25,000 miles or so.

Speaking of fluid, BMW's schedule for engine oil change is, mandated by the government to reduce ownership cost, way too lenient. I would change much more often. This manifested in clogged oil separator and stranded us one day. We have 2 911s. Porsche, likewise, changed oil change requirement to 20,000 miles - absolutely positively way too long and PCA adamantly recommend shorter oil change intervals.

I love German cars and we tend to follow manufacturers' recommendation/requirements little too strictly. They used to disclose more specifics, but now we get these mysterious ETL 8072B spec. And lifetime fluid that designed to last 50,000 miles, maybe. Whole point is monopolization of after-sale services, which is a huge cash flow to any manufacturers. We all know dealers make money from servicing, not from sales. BMW really wants to sell replacement auto box for $6,000 a pop, I take.

Anyhow, I hope this helps.
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