Drivers Door won't open - after changing handle carrier

[sheepdip]

I broke my drivers door handle carrier by being heavy handed during the recent freeze - though I could still open the door using the inside handle/opener after opening the windows with the remote.

I followed the procedures here http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-fix-pics.html to replace it and have to say the change went great.

After putting it all back together the door handle worked about 3 times but now the door is firmly stuck closed - won't open whether I try with the inside or outside handle.

Door seems to lock/unlock with remote (button pops up and down) but door stays shut. Windows work fine with remote and switches on the door.

I am trying to remove the door panel with the door shut but as it's now dark and kin freezing I've knocked it on the head - probably till next weekend.

Has anyone got any tips for this one?

Cheers

[BrianX54.4is]

Hi Sheepdip - glad the post was of help in changing out the carrier. Seems as if the lock mechanism where the carrier cable attaches has stuck or at least not returned fully to the rest position. You should be able to free it again using a wire coat hanger as described in the begining of the how-to post without having to disassemble anything.

Did you lube the lock mechanism during the carrier replacement job?

Check that the carrier cable was re-attached to the door lock in the right position - this may be causing the problem - see pic.

[sheepdip]

Thanks for the quick reply Brian

I did try the coat hanger fiddle but don't know if I actually found the lever

I've managed to get the door panel off at the top so I'll take another look as soon as it's light and a bit warmer

I did soak everything in spray on silicone grease

I'm pretty sure everything is in teh right place but will check again, its a righty sod trying to get the pane off with teh door closed


Cheers

Mike

[Aimster]

Mine was frozen and I pulled it too hard and snapped the cable loose I think.
The exterior door handle sticks out a bit .. I have to use the interior door handle to go in.

Think I just snatched the cable loose and need to go back and reattach it?

Sorry didnt mean to thread crap

[sheepdip]

Originally Posted by Aimster

Mine was frozen and I pulled it too hard and snapped the cable loose I think.
The exterior door handle sticks out a bit .. I have to use the interior door handle to go in.

Think I just snatched the cable loose and need to go back and reattach it?

Sorry didnt mean to thread crap

That's exactly what I did but it broke the cable retainer off the handle carrier

[glassjoe]

Originally Posted by BrianX54.4is

Hi Sheepdip - glad the post was of help in changing out the carrier. Seems as if the lock mechanism where the carrier cable attaches has stuck or at least not returned fully to the rest position. You should be able to free it again using a wire coat hanger as described in the begining of the how-to post without having to disassemble anything.

Did you lube the lock mechanism during the carrier replacement job?

Check that the carrier cable was re-attached to the door lock in the right position - this may be causing the problem - see pic.

I'm bringing this 8 year old post back from the dead just to say THANK YOU A TON!!! I recently replaced my left rear door carrier and the door opened/closed upon testing but the other day I couldn't get it back open from the inside or outside. There's no way the door actuator all of the sudden stopped working and after trying all of the double lock tests and various other things (to include beating on the damn thing) I found this post where I had apparently installed the Bowden cable to high in the fixing bracket which did not allow the mechanism to reset in the low position. I popped off the cable from the bracket and actuated the lever and BAM... the door pops open.

So if you have recently replaced a door carrier and had to remove this cable, be sure you reset it in the position shown in the post by BrianX54.4is. Thanks my brother because I was about to take the nuclear approach and rip the actuator assembly apart from the inside... LOL

[glassjoe]

Well, I thought I had fixed my issue by resetting the Bowden cable but it was a positive negative. After resting the cable I could open and close the door from both the inside and outside, but as soon as I locked the doors with my key FOB or the central locking button and then unlocked them, I could no longer open the door from the inside or outside. I was thinking WTF???

So, after tearing everything back apart and removing the lock actuator I hooked it up to car power and cycled the lock a few times holding the exterior door handle mechanism approximately where it resides when everything was hooked up and noticed an internal latch wasn't releasing. As I slowly extended the mechanism it would release. So after scratching my head for a second or two, I figured out the problem. The damn cable that came with the Chinese door carrier I replaced was shorter than the OEM cable which wasn't allowing the door actuator mechanism to fully extend allowing the door to be opened. So I yanked the new carrier out of the car and, luckily, I still had the broken OEM carrier and compared the two cables and sure enough, the Chinese crap I got from Amazon has a cable assembly that was about a half-inch shorter. Lucky for me, I was able to remove the cable from the OWM unit and replace it on the new unit and after getting everything back together again, the door functions normally in all scenarios.

I was really close to buying a new door actuator and am glad I didn't because the OEM is $200+. So BUYER BEWARE if you buy an other than genuine BMW door carrier because the cable might not be long enough. I had this issue on my left rear door so I'm not sure if other are affected.

Hope this helps someone!

[shedtastic]

Originally Posted by glassjoe

Well, I thought I had fixed my issue by resetting the Bowden cable but it was a positive negative. After resting the cable I could open and close the door from both the inside and outside, but as soon as I locked the doors with my key FOB or the central locking button and then unlocked them, I could no longer open the door from the inside or outside. I was thinking WTF???

So, after tearing everything back apart and removing the lock actuator I hooked it up to car power and cycled the lock a few times holding the exterior door handle mechanism approximately where it resides when everything was hooked up and noticed an internal latch wasn't releasing. As I slowly extended the mechanism it would release. So after scratching my head for a second or two, I figured out the problem. The damn cable that came with the Chinese door carrier I replaced was shorter than the OEM cable which wasn't allowing the door actuator mechanism to fully extend allowing the door to be opened. So I yanked the new carrier out of the car and, luckily, I still had the broken OEM carrier and compared the two cables and sure enough, the Chinese crap I got from Amazon has a cable assembly that was about a half-inch shorter. Lucky for me, I was able to remove the cable from the OWM unit and replace it on the new unit and after getting everything back together again, the door functions normally in all scenarios.

I was really close to buying a new door actuator and am glad I didn't because the OEM is $200+. So BUYER BEWARE if you buy an other than genuine BMW door carrier because the cable might not be long enough. I had this issue on my left rear door so I'm not sure if other are affected.

Hope this helps someone!

^^ This, I think explains my issue. I've replaced my front right door handle carrier with an eBay $26 part (seller = "Partstation2015") and it seemed to work. (Though,, as others have noted, the doorhandle was kind of 'hair trigger', in that it released the door in the first 3mm of handle movement, which didn't feel very safe.)
I know, I know, $26 delivered part, what did I expect...

I was about to re attach the door panel and put my tools away, but I thought I would check that the door locked and unlocked properly. So I reattached the battery, shut the doors and cycled the door locks. The passenger door did not lock. I pushed the 'snib' (plastic but that would normally poke through the top of the door panel) down to lock it, and it then wouldn't unlock. Pulling the interior handle (well the exposed cable, since I hadn't reattached the door panel) would not unlock the door either..

Much frustration, and I'll admit, mild panic.

Detatching the balljoint on the end of the cable, and the door would unlock again. I think the cable is too short,I'm going to try what you suggested. (Back in 2018..)

[shedtastic]

Originally Posted by shedtastic

I think the cable is too short,I'm going to try what you suggested. (Back in 2018..)

So I definitely see a difference in the cable length, but I also now see that the casting is wrong where the exterior handle bolts on:









So I've ordered the proper part now since even swapping the cable over is not going to result in a good Q result..

[Aimster]

if I open the door can I snap it back in or do I need to buy the handle carrier?

I rather just snap it back in and park my car in the garage from now on