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Old 11-21-2014, 01:12 PM
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Buying advice sought: X5, lo vs hi miles

I am actively looking for a facelift E53 4.4 V8 X5. I'm in the UK with a budget of up to £7500 for which I hope to get a good vehicle about ten years old. My question is - would it be better to go for a low mileage example ie with my budget, about 60 - 70,000 miles. Or would it be more sensible to go for an example that's done 100,000 miles, by which time several major items will presumably have had to be replaced eg suspension parts etc? I plan to keep the vehicle for about two years, during which time I will be doing about 12,000 miles in total.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:19 PM
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More than the amount of miles, I'd be asking for service records, and what suspension, etc. work they've already done.

You just have to research what it would cost you to perform all the scheduled/expected maintenance/repairs, factor in what's been done, purchase price, and do the math.

You might find a truck with 70K on it that hasn't been taken care of vs. and 100K truck that's been well taken care of but not had any of 'the usual suspects' taken care of vs. a 130K truck that might have more miles but has been well taken care of and the suspension has been rebuilt, etc.

Learn the factors, price them out, then make your decision. The absolute requirement should be complete service records. From there you can make an informed decision as to what has been done and what will have to be done and what may need to be done. Without that, it's a shot in the dark.
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Thanks very much for the quick reply, which sounds very sensible.

Apart from routine service items such as discs/pads, I believe suspension bushes, ball joints & front CV joints are items that will need replacing at some stage. Also dashboard pixels and water pumps may be vulnerable.Are there any other specific things to look for in a relatively higher-miles example ?

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In addition to what Thrillcat said (great advice, BTW), I'd have the car inspected by a shop.

Also on the V8, check for smoking out of the exhaust. Drive the car until it is at full operating temperature (temperature gauge should be pointing at the 12:00 position). Then stop and let it idle for a few minutes like you are in heavy traffic or sitting in a drive through. Then accelerate away from the stop and check your mirrors (or have a friend watch) for blue smoke.

This is indicative of a few different things, the least expensive is about $150 and most expensive of which can cost $2000-$5000 to repair.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:54 PM
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From my experience - look for a car with the lowest miles and best service history you can find. I bought mine with 100k on it, and it would seem that the previous owner dumped it when it started costing money (or just before). I have probably spent $3000 in parts alone over 2 years of ownership, and I did all of the repairs myself.

On top of the repairs, the damn thing has depreciated about another 6-7 grand in the same time frame. When I bought it, it was 11 years old, and I figured depreciation should have leveled off - WRONG!

It's a great car when everything is working, but it seems to have a major issue several times each year. I would not want to have this car without a backup vehicle.
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£7.5k will get you a well serviced example if you want the petrol. Big engine, low economy, high service bills all make it a tough car to sell, so you'll have a lot of room to barter.

Anything that old, regardless of its service history, is still going to need ongoing (expensive) maintenance. I've spent around £1,400 (independent garage) on mine in just 4,000 miles. I suspect I'll be spending another £200-400 next year on bits and bobs.

As mentioned, ultimately it doesn't matter what the mileage is. The key is that it's been well looked after. Mine has BMWSH up to 60,000, then was owned by a mechanic who did all the work himself before I got it. Despite this, it's still needed the aforementioned amount of money spent.

I'm sure you're aware too that you will average 18-20mpg at best. £5 petrol will take you the grand distance of 15 miles.
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You should really look for a 06 3.0 . The 4.4's 4.6 4.8 all have major engine problems that will cost 6-8k to fix. Depending on the year and engine...timing chain guides fail to age not mileage. Valve steam seals , coolant intake plates or cooling pipes, valve cover gaskets, water pumps and on an on.

The 3.0 don't suffer from engine problems but the entire cooling system should be changed. Both models V8 or 6 all the front end parts wear out.

Around 04 05 the did some comedic changes and also have a better 4x4 system.
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The 3.0i's are virtually impossible to find in the UK. Yes, the inline 6's are more reliable, but they are gutless and worse economy then the V8's.

The aforementioned problems aren't guaranteed. I know of a 4.4 that has 200,000 on it and hasn't had anything done engine wise apart from coolant stuff and the gearbox.
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The 3.0i's are virtually impossible to find in the UK. Yes, the inline 6's are more reliable, but they are gutless and worse economy then the V8's.

The aforementioned problems aren't guaranteed. I know of a 4.4 that has 200,000 on it and hasn't had anything done engine wise apart from coolant stuff and the gearbox.
I'll bet you a weeks paycheck have him pull off the timing cover and chucks of his timing chain guide are gone and or cracked. Ticking time bomb.

Yes the 3.0 are not the fastest. I hate to see someone buy a E53 V8 because it WILL suck them dry.
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