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Old 10-14-2011, 08:48 PM
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Best snows Blizzak vs. Nokian

I know they are both very good in the snow. But, say you could pick one set for free. Which would you choose?
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i'd pick pirelli scorpion ice and snows. well unless you can get either of those for free
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Snows

I should have put hypothetically lol. I Wish they were free. I will check out the pirellis. Thanks for post!
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I should have put hypothetically lol. I Wish they were free. I will check out the pirellis. Thanks for post!
they are a high performance snow tire. SO on the highway you really dont loose as much performance and stuff. And I go to school in upstate NY, the snow and ice is terrible here, but these tires were the best
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Nokian for deep snow, Blizzaks for icy roads. Personally, I've run Blizzaks on all our cars here in Toronto because we get more icy roads than deep snow.
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I just ordered a set of Continental 4x4 Winter Contacts, size 255/50/19. I can still use tire chains with this size.
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I'm actually lookin' at winter tires too, the Pirelli Scorpions right now are probably what I'll go with. I haven't tried any of the others. I'm more familiar with the Pirellis as a few friends have had them before.
Unfortunately they are $350 each (Runflat) w/ no current rebates etc. 20"
I would imagine the other two brands are in the same price range ?

I still need to pick "winter" rims,
Anybody have any suggestions ? At least towards 19" vs 20" and performance, 'cause obviously the rims and tire prices drop quite a bit at 19".

I plan to just match Front and Rear 20" tires in 275/40/R20s unlike my OEM Y spoke X5d Sport set-up w/ Dunlop Sports ( the rears are 315/35/20),
which looks nice, but I need snow traction.
Is it true a wider tire is worse in snow ? I know for racing wider was better for contact...
Other than Tirerack and discount tire any other websites to check out or for BMW replica rims ?
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Honestly, a 255/50/19 or a 255/55/18 would work much better than the 275's you are thinking of. A wider tire is MUCH worse in snow and ice. By choosing a narrower tire, you are putting more weight on the contact patch, creating more traction. The wider tires will try to float a bit more in the snow and ice. If you go way too narrow, performance (and looks) will start to suffer.

Ive been driving in snow country for 19 years, the last 11 here in ALASKA! I usually average about 6 months of snow tire usage.

I have personally used Nokian Hakkapeliitta's on my non awd E30, had Blizzaks on my E39 528i and E46 325xi, and Dunlop Grandtrek WTM2's on our old E53 4.4i, and currently have studded Cooper Discoverer M/S for winter on my F250 Superduty.

I liked the Nokians, because they were studded on our old E30. Also on my truck, I choose studded. It really helps the tires grip the glare ice on the roads and where it builds up at the intersections for vehicles without modern traction control.

My wife says she has never felt more confident in the winter than in her old X5. One time, we had 24" of snow in our neighborhood and the Dunlops kept pulling. The narrower tire (we had about 1.5" narrower 18's than the stock 19's) kept the tire from floating and packing snow under them. Snow was litterally piling up and coming over the hood. Once we got out on the main streets, it was a sloppy mess. It was pretty cool to be out there with all the big trucks. We got quite a few looks...

In my opinion...The only time studs are really necessary are for glare ice. For most people, most of the time, a good non-studded winter tire will work great and provide the best all around performance. They will outperform an "all season" tire by a large margin. I would choose whichever you like best. I really like the directional ones, they seem to go through the slush better, but that is a pretty subjective comparison. Ive never switched brands in the middle of winter or tested two back to back.

All that being said...Ill probably order Blizzaks for the wifes X5d that is on order.
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I have 275/40/R20s all around on my X5 with the Pirelli scorpion ice and snows. I find them to work perfectly
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I ran Nokians on my 17"s for 35,000 miles and I found them to be excellent. They have an excellent pattern, and they are softer and very comfortable. They have great wet and dry traction, so you don't actually sacrifice dry pavement traction. This refers to Nokian Vatiiva's, which may or may not be available on 19s.
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