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Old 04-11-2011, 01:33 AM
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E53 Folding Mirror pics 'n stuff 'n junk.

Today, I tore apart the driver's side mirror to see what was the cause of failure. (Attached picture of instructions on taking the painted mirror cover pieces off.)

Previous threads that helped: (thank you!)
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-searched.html
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ng-mirror.html
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...bolt-pics.html
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ixed-pics.html
Contact switch by Saia-Burgess/Johnson - V4NCS T7C4
Google search for part: V4NCST7C4ACX
JOHNSON ELECTRIC Product Catalog
Subminiature Microswitches - Johnson Electric
http://w2s.saia-burgessusa.com/ledx/...sso?pcode=A257

Order Here (Minimum 150 quantity.)

BURGESS SWITCH V4NCST7C4ACX*|*Buy*V4NCST7C4ACX*|*V4NCST7C4ACX*|*O nlinecomponents.com

or here (Minimum 400 quantity)

SAIA-BURGESS|V4NCST7C4ACX|SWITCH | Newark.com

.pdf datasheets are attached
Motor Case by Unknown - 641-11A 383-2A on side of case, 713153 REV10 A1 on bottom of case
No information found, but can't see needing that part ever replaced. But, listing the number in case you guys get bored/lucky and find it.
Motor by Mabuchi Motor - Still need to take measurements to determine exact model, Possible models are:
FC-280PC-22125(*1) (*1 = With flux yoke)
FC 280PT-22125 (with brass tip)
FC-280SC-18180
FC-280SC-20150
FC-280SC-16220

FC-280PC/SC

Order here: (still need to determine exact part #, but this vendor should work.)

Kysan Electronics Product Detail Page

.pdf datasheet is attached
About the motor housing with the broken pin, plans are to:
Use a dremel to shear off the unbroken pin.
Purchase two ~6mm long / ~2.5mm diameter steel dowel pins (need to grab calipers from work and take exact measurements)
Drill two holes through the motor housing where the sheared off pins used to be.
Drop steel dowel pins into motor housing pedestal
Align motor housing with new holes into the pedestal/steel pins
Should be a stronger permanent fix.
Lots 'o pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../1Coveroff.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...C4Markings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...C4Markings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...mentPoints.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...orDetached.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ngsupplies.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2AMarkings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2AMarkings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...buchiMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...buchiMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...buchiMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldingMotor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...asurements.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...asurements.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...asurements.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...lClearance.jpg



Hope it helps,

- J
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File Type: pdf V4NCS & T7C4 Folding Mirror Motor Contact Switch 2.pdf (118.1 KB, 1101 views)
File Type: pdf Mabuchi Motor FC-280PC & FC-280SC.pdf (104.5 KB, 1879 views)
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:55 AM
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Anyhow as you can see in my case the microswitch contact rocker had come off, and both mirrors work properly (for now). I still need to dowel pin the housing and then go to the passenger side mirror, crack that open, and see what needs to be done.

The svisswax wheel brush came in handy for cleaning the guts of the mirror.
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:15 AM
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Thanks for this...What symptoms were you experiencing?
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:38 PM
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When I pressed the mirror fold button, both would retract and go back out. All other mirror functions worked, though.

I'm off to find steel pins today.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:14 PM
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my passenger side mirror is acting funny aswell it would move slow and would open after i push the button 10seconds later =/ i think my motor is dying
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:16 PM
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Do you really need them, I'm glad I don't have them on my 4.6is, just one more thing to break on these fragile beasts. Hey J. I was doing a search a while back and found your thread on the Bullrun TV show forum, did you ever try to enter, I have a VR-4 also..LOL!!
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Old 04-11-2011, 11:21 PM
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romeokc10,

Cheers to another VR-4 owner.

The wife unit and I are close friends with Brooke (IS250 - Season 2) and Emily (SC300 - Season 3). Wife and Em were supposed to go on season 1, but being the procrastinator that she is, she didn't get her video interview done on time, so the producers paired Brooke and Em up. Then, things changed and Brooke and Em got slated back to season 2, then they got split to seasons 2 and 3 (as you saw on TV).

It wouldn't be far-fetched to say that you could see the wife and I and the 4.6 on the show in the future... but she's apprehensive now about doing it, having heard some of the crap that has happened during filming, which is not my place to discuss.

Anywho, I think the truck would be a ringer. (Thoughts of gravity-fed auxiliary fuel tanks have gone through my head many times.) But, if the wife isn't on board, I'm not going to press the issue. Still, thanks for reminding me to nag her again about a possible opportunity.....
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Did the motor come with the gears? My motor is still good, but the gear on the motor is worn. Any ideas where i can pickup the gear?

Thanks!!!
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First, still need to determine exact P/N of the motor (see above), this can be done by taking physical measurements of the motor. I need to take mine back apart to do this, but if you have your mirror apart... I'm all ears.

About the gear being worn, I'm not sure if the motor comes with a gear or not. This requires an email to the mfr, or to a distributor, for more information.
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Got an email from onlinecomponents.com regarding the microswitches.

Quote:
Item # V4NCST7C4ACX has a 400pcs Minimum Order Qty per the factory.
We would need an order for at least 150pcs to backorder this item, we are willing to keep the remaining pieces in stock.

We will cancel the order at this time, if you can increase the Qty you may resubmit the order at anytime.

Thank you.
$517.50 to order 150 "pieces" or 75 "pairs" of microswitches.
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